Forum › White Hat SEO › So I leaned the hard way after buying backlinks that backlinks are not equal and had to pay to remove 2500 spammy backlinks. My question is how important is contextual backlinks vs just foundational backlinks with high DAs like 60-100?
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October 6, 2020 at 4:05 am #10966seohelperKeymaster
So I leaned the hard way after buying backlinks that backlinks are not equal and had to pay to remove 2500 spammy backlinks. My question is how important is contextual backlinks vs just foundational backlinks with high DAs like 60-100?October 6, 2020 at 4:35 am #10971particleman3
Backlinks need to be viewed as a holistic strategy.
Also, how much were you spending to end up with 2500 to remove?October 6, 2020 at 5:17 am #10972waltermlone
How did you know that the backlinks were harmful/preventing your progress? And did you remove them further than just with Google’s disavow tool?October 6, 2020 at 5:43 am #10969ChickenWiddle
What service provided those links?October 6, 2020 at 6:16 am #10978Bedroid
a natural organic blend according to industry works best! 100% white-hat of courseOctober 6, 2020 at 6:24 am #10967kp15abd
You need backlinks that make sense to Google. If you have random backlinks from irrelevant sites then ofc you’ll lose rankingOctober 6, 2020 at 6:33 am #10977adithyanr
First recheck and ensure all the toxic links are removed. I would suggest manually checking all the links as no tool is perfect in detecting toxic links.
For new links, first you should focus on all the good quality local directories, listings sites, listicles, etc. relevant to your niche.
The right local directories will help seo, brand awareness and will bring some referral traffic.
Then, you should spend money to buy some high authority links(depending on your industry). Earning high authority links is now like PR work – it’s difficult and you’ll need experts for this.
You can also hire someone to build some natural, contextual links in communities, QA sites, guest posts, WEB 2.0, etc – this is easy stuff and you won’t see a big change.
But still, I would suggest this for a diverse backlink profile and it’ll boost the brand awareness. But if not done right, this might result in another penalty.
You can also try some advanced techniques like broken page link building, resource page link building, links from brand mentions(works only for well known brands).October 6, 2020 at 6:43 am #10968bsasson
What’s the real question? You’re surprised getting 2500 automatically generated links at $0.24 a piece didn’t help you rank?October 6, 2020 at 6:47 am #10973marshdurden
You can ask them to remove if they don’t then just disavow, no need to spend 600 bucks.
Link building is time consuming and every short cut you take is going to cost you in future, Take time build great content, outreach to quality sites and guest post.October 6, 2020 at 8:23 am #10982wildluciddreaming
Always buy back links not for you but for your competitors.October 6, 2020 at 12:01 pm #10979ClickedMarketing
I have said it before, and I will say it again.
Anyone selling links based on DA is either incompetent or a scammer.
DA has nothing to do with the value of a link. What matters is the link profile of the page your link will actually appear on, and unless you can trace a direct link path from the home page to the page your link is on, DA tells you nothing about that.
People selling links based on DA are almost always just creating profiles on these domains and dropping the links there. They have absolutely no value. You would get the same benefit from a link on a brand new domain.October 6, 2020 at 12:25 pm #10970Rebbits
Backlinks are imporant and even though Google tries to downplay it, but it’s still the most important element of why a site ranks (besides content on the page & keyword relevancy).
It used to be that quantity could trump quality, but now quality matters more than just tons of spammy backlinks. You want a mix of backlinks and remember DA is Moz’s way of providing a pagerank-like measurement for optimizers – it’s not a measure of Google’s trust in that backlink, so take it directionally.October 6, 2020 at 12:35 pm #10974Phantai
Contextual backlinks vs foundational backlinks:
Depends on how competitive the keywords you are trying to rank for.
If by foundational links, you mean socials, relevant business directories, etc. — that should be done for all of your websites. In some, non-competitive niches, that might be enough to get you ranking (assuming your keyword research + on site are good).
If you are working in a competitive niche, and your keywords are dominated by larger websites, then you should get contextual backlinks.
Also, do not use DA as a standalone metric. This is probably what got you in this mess. A lot of shitty PBNs / link farms have very high Ahrefs / Moz Metrics (because, if you know how they are calculated, they are very easy to game) so they can sell links to clueless SEOs.
Remember, Google does not use DA / DR. These are just made up metrics by Moz / Ahrefs to give you an idea of what Moz / Ahrefs think are good backlinks (hint: they are NOT the same as Google).
Here are a couple of better ways to determine whether a link is good or not:
1. Does the website rank in top 10 for keywords related to your niche? (A lot of PBNs don’t rank for anything except their own website name in the top 10 — or they rank for completely irrelevant, shitty keywords)
2. Is the website getting organic traffic? (a lot of PBNs will have 70+ DA and get like 100 traffic per month)
3. Does the website have high quality backlinks? (i.e. not all links from shitty PBNs that don’t rank for anything with equally exaggerated DA / DR metrics)
It can get a lot more complicated, especially if you are working at scale, or in a very competitive niche. But those 3 points should point you in the right direction.October 6, 2020 at 12:56 pm #10975PreSonusAmp
If you are new or do not 100% understand the various faucets of SEO, I recommend avoiding the backlink building fixation altogether.
Sure, it can work if you get lucky, develop your own workflow, or pay BIG bucks, but most of the time it’s not the solution.October 6, 2020 at 2:29 pm #10980MrRedditKing
Did those spammy backlings increase your DA, and if so how much?
Some people still think DA matters, and therefore it has value if you’re a blogger for instance, trying to convince people about the popularity of your blog.
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