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  • Google putting legitimate new sites in the sandbox is hurtful to the industry

    Posted by Dozl on July 7, 2024 at 10:16 am

    Having to explain to clients that new sites may have to wait 3 months or more before the sandbox is removed is crazy

    Dozl replied 12 months ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • padigitalseo

    Guest
    July 7, 2024 at 10:26 am

    Can you explain the sandbox, and the evidence for it?

  • itchieritch

    Guest
    July 7, 2024 at 12:14 pm

    I recently launched a site and its ranking. I didn’t experience this. Or are you suggesting that my rankings may improve once the sandbox time has passed?

    Brightonbitesback.com if you want to check etc

  • throwawaytester799

    Guest
    July 7, 2024 at 12:15 pm

    I don’t know. I launched a new website with 39 pages on July 2, and all are indexed and all rank on page one or two. Domain isn’t yet 60 days old.

  • FRELNCER

    Guest
    July 7, 2024 at 1:22 pm

    How would Google know which sites are legitimate?

  • potatodrinker

    Guest
    July 7, 2024 at 1:24 pm

    It’s a boom for the PPC sector. Some businesses can’t afford to be invisible for up to 3 months when early sales and immediate positive ROAS is needed

  • 2pongz

    Guest
    July 7, 2024 at 2:04 pm

    It’s probably because you’re a content, MFA (made for advertising) website. Pretty sure there’s a website identifier for that, will check the leaks again later

  • DarthJahus

    Guest
    July 7, 2024 at 2:25 pm

    We have some websites that never* make it to Google Search despite having good content, written by humans, fresh (news) and everything. While others are rocking it on Discover (6000/+ 30 minute concurrent viewers).

    * after 6 months or a year

    Dependence on Google is a plague.

  • WebLinkr

    Guest
    July 7, 2024 at 2:53 pm

    Its always been there. But I’ve always though you could accelerate it or mitigate against the impact. QQ : what have you done to grow it?

    I routinely start new sites and I overcome sandboxing by putting up a holding page while people squabble over the logo and colors and inconsequential stuff (not kidding – humans develop new logo devices/symbols everyday, the amount of money spent on arbitrarily “perfecting” it is extremely wasteful – I know companies putting $100k to $1m over budget on this and then have less to spend on getting eyeballs- this is crazy)

    But that aside – lets assume we don’t all share the same definition for what sandboxing means – what effect does it have to you? To me it means waiting 3-4 days to get new pages indexed at the very start for the first 3-4 weeks and some slow refreshing and oscillating between page 1 and 8 for the home page for the first 48-56 hours.

    Also, what do you need your client to see? Like I always setup a YT, LI, LI Showcase pages, twitter and then accelerate high-trust sites like BBB, ad put up video. A Google My Business Page really helps make it look complete.

    Rank by Proxy is amazing for “Show & tell” – like it gives good slides for the internal marketing campaign, often the most important work you can do as a marketing team, inside & outside.

  • padigitalseo

    Guest
    July 7, 2024 at 4:27 pm

    So how come I have new sites seeing search volume within a couple of weeks of publication? The effect can’t be applied equally.

  • lilouartz

    Guest
    July 8, 2024 at 1:06 am

    I am in a super competitive space, less than 80 days old, and getting ~100-200 clicks a day. It is a good start.

  • Accomplished-Yak489

    Guest
    July 8, 2024 at 2:04 am

    Done with google

  • born_crisis

    Guest
    July 8, 2024 at 3:05 am

    My website https://borncrisis.com showed up indexed on Google 2 days after it was created. I only made the website 11 days ago. Some things are still showing up — currently only 3 of my 6 blog posts are searchable by Google. No long-tail keywords really; it’s just another t-shirt store. But I don’t think that “new sites are being sandboxed”. 

  • TheStruggleIsDefReal

    Guest
    July 8, 2024 at 5:08 am

    I have built three service industry websites in the past 3 months. No real backlinking except to each other. I have seen a steady increase in traffic.
    This one less than 2 months old. Construction Company in a major city with 5 sub cities and 45 Pages. 1.78k impressions since may 19th. Going from 20 to 100 impressions per day. Average position up to 12 across all pages.

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