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Switches from max conversions to max conv value and the results tanked?
Posted by Fredrik4411 on September 28, 2025 at 3:57 pmHi, I have a DSA campaign for my ecom store doing quite well, with about 6x ROAS on 40$ a day. This is on maximize conversions. As an ecom store, I of course want as much revenue as possible, so I tried switching to maximize conversion value. We have spent about 1000$ with the new biding strategy, and haven’t got any sales.
Why is this happening? Should I give it more time, or just switch back? Should I also try switching from max conv value to max conv in other campaigns?
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sburatorul
GuestSeptember 28, 2025 at 4:04 pmHave you set up your conversion value tracking correctly? Check if you are not using a default (and wrong) value
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Email2Inbox
GuestSeptember 28, 2025 at 4:26 pmSwitching bidding strategies typically nukes your data for a bit
but if you were spending $40 per day why did you let it spend $1000 before wondering what was happening?
Also, “of course want as much revenue as possible” is not a cut and clean answer. You might be getting a higher AOV but with far less sales total.
Eg;
You were getting 100 sales @ $20 each before
now: you are getting 10 sales @ 100 each
You are making less revenue. This can also go the other way.
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VillageHomeF
GuestSeptember 28, 2025 at 4:31 pmyou probably should have duplicated the campaign and started the new bidding strategy separate while it learns and optimizes. all while keeping the old one running until the new one is up to speed
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ppcwithyrv
GuestSeptember 28, 2025 at 5:22 pmDSA is antiquated. Its morphed into AI Max. However if its learned to the point where it drives revenue that is awesome. My next observation, why did you change a perfectly working campaign. I would have switched to ROAS.
Max Conversions Valuemeans the algo will skip lower priced goods (and the lower priced auctions) and only pace on the more expensive stuff. This is why its struggling. I would switch back OR use roas based bidding. I have a whole video on this if you want me to send it.
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fathom53
GuestSeptember 28, 2025 at 7:42 pmYou should have kept the bid strategy the same and increased your budget to see what happens at a larger daily budget.
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runkled
GuestSeptember 29, 2025 at 7:02 amI probably would have done this with an experiment first to see how things panned out. Your conversions might have tanked since Google isn’t primarily targeting “likely to convert” anymore, but rather looking for “likely to spend.” Subtle difference, but can completely change the type of person the ads will be served to.
I’d throw it back to what you were having success with before and run experiments or clone campaigns from there to narrow down what you can accomplish concerning higher ROAS.
Disclaimer: Google takes it’s sweet time (up to 30-60 days) to fully recover and relearn it’s optimizations after major changes to a campaign. Might just be that, tbh
Edit: I read something in your post wrong so I adjusted my thoughts.
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GoogleAdExpert
GuestSeptember 29, 2025 at 4:34 pmthis happen before in ecom, when switching to max value google needs solid data history, without it campaigns usually tank, I always switch back to max conversions until enough value signals build up
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Single-Sea-7804
GuestSeptember 29, 2025 at 4:46 pmYeah, this happens. I honestly would do what the other say in the comments and either run an experiment or duplicate the campaign altogether to see how it does (although, if you duplicate it you’d have to pause the other campaign as it would cannibalize each other).
If it’s been a week I’m assuming it’s out of learning. You can either revert the change or stick to the change and slowly see conversions come in. Either way it’ll take some time before you see it scale up again.
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Available_Cup5454
GuestSeptember 29, 2025 at 10:40 pmMax conversion value needs a lot more revenue data to optimize with low volume it starves delivery switch back to maximize conversions until you’ve built enough purchase history to sustain value bidding.
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