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I own a Mexican restaurant in Taiwan, lol. Dove into SEO about 3 months ago, its going well. Question about Ubersuggest and other Keyword softwares.
Posted by on November 29, 2025 at 3:19 amOk, its black Friday, good deals everywhere.
I was really close to grabbing a lifetime package from Ubersuggest. Till I came here to this reddit. Lol
1) I realize that Niel Patel is a marketer but why do people hate him so much? Is it cuz he's a marketing first guy? Does ubersuggest really suck or does the dude just suck?2) page optimizer pro is from Kyle Roof dude is a legend, so does that make his software awesome?
3) any other ones out there? Ah refs and Semrush keep popping up but they are pretty expensive, any thoughts?
4) Adobe just bought Semrush apparently, is that a good or a bad thing in your opinion and why?
5) Lastly, I will eventually do a side biz for small businesses helping them with SEO like im doing for mine because call me crazy but its addictive and fun af to see your pages and numbers climbing the ranks.
6) lastly because im in Taiwan I need dual language keywords, specifically English and Traditional Chinese, possibly even Japanese in the future.
Thank you all
P.s. I don't expect you to answer all the questions but appreciate ya all in advance
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Hey I went to your restaurant last month in Tianmu and definitely coming back sometime soon!
To answer your questions:
Disclaimer: I’m a software engineer who also does a lot of SEO work. Every service I run leans heavily on search to drive traffic, so I’m deep in this stuff every day.
1) The dislike for Neil Patel is mostly about his marketing style. He pushes hard, recycles generic advice and positions himself as an SEO authority when many people feel he oversimplifies things. Ubersuggest does suck and it’s light years behind tools like Ahrefs. Probably fine for beginners or small sites, but the data quality just isn’t on the same level.
2) Kyle Roof is smart and has done solid work, but PageOptimizer Pro isn’t magic. It’s basically an on page scoring tool built around his methodology. Useful for structured on page improvements, but not something that replaces deep audits.
3) If you can afford one premium tool, choose Ahrefs. The data, link index, and competitor insights are far more reliable than cheaper tools.
4) Adobe buying Semrush is a mixed bag, I was confused about the announcement tbh. Big companies tend to bloat products, raise prices, and slow real innovation. Also, what has Adobe to do with SEO?
5) If you can show solid results, go for it?
6) For Taiwan specifically, you’ll want tools that support regional SERPs. Ahrefs has decent Traditional Chinese and Japanese data.
Hope that helps.
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1. Seasoned professionals just don’t trust him. His marketing style is very obnoxious and the information he puts out there is fairly basic. Ubersuggest last time I checked was just inferior to the other tools available. It has been a few years since I used it, but I don’t think they upgraded the tool that much since then.
2. Semrush and Ahrefs are pretty much the best tools available. Unfortunately yeah they’re expensive. I’m not really sure which alternatives are worth trying though
3. The acquisition won’t be finished until mid-2026 if I’m not mistaken, so not much will change right now. On the long term I’m not a big fan of the deal because I’m not a fan of Adobe and how they deal with the products/brands they buy. -
I don’t know much about Neil’s new paid products, but some of the hate he gets here is honestly jealousy.
He taught me so much when I started in the 2010’s and I have great results today. -
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That tool is not accurate at all. Yes, it’s cause he’s a marketer first.
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Ah, there was a message on here i wanted to respond to, it seems to be deleted. I got sucked back into the kitchen for the lunch rush. Where can I see it?
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Whoever that dude was that lives in taiwan and is fluent in Chinese SEO for Taiwan. Please hit me up
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Where us your restaurant?
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