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GuestDecember 18, 2025 at 4:42 pm100% agree on this – the answer is because LLMs are not search engines, dont have search indices.
But there are 3 observation points that have becme “attack vectors”
1) People dropping their search query from Google into ChatGPT or Perplexity and getting different results
2) GEO Disinformation (this was picked up by Lily Ray and Edward Sturm from here)
3) Marketers who think LLMs are inherently search engines because they dont understand training data, LLM variables or SEO
But LLMs need Bing, Google and Claude
1) ChatGPT uses Bing and Google. but -it uses cached data
2) Grok uses Google but is a week behind. Grok also uses X posts (fyI)
3) Claude uses Bravesearch – a Google clone/repica
4) Perplexity uses Google in Real time, as does Gemini
# Red Flags in the GEO LLM search conversation
These conversations are happening across Reddit in the other “AEO” or “GEO” or “AI SEO” subs – they dont happen here because we have stricter controls
Some examples of red flags
1. The same conversation, different poster
2. Low Karma (why we unfortunately have a karma check) – these posts are AI generated and then posted by new accounts spun up
3. Subs that are just platforming this content
4. People replying to posts where the account is already suspended by Reddit
# Please check the account you’re replying to
People often reply to interesting conversation ideas because we all love discussing SEO topics. but 9/10 those accounts are suspended.
FYUI – Reddit suspends accounts,. not Mods. We just block them from posting here